[Techtalk] Raven should not leave!

[Robert Wichert]

This is silly.

Raven is a great person, very helpful and very knowledgeable.

What have we done to drive her off?


Robert Wichert



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Whoppo wrote:
> 
> I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of effort is being put into this
> thread. There are a LOT of people from whom we do not accept email..We
> have our own reasons for this, which I think have been explained in
> fairly easy to understand terms. Since we started rejecting mail from
> domains that have delivered virtually NOTHING but spam to us we have
> actually been able to deal with our legitimate email without wasting our
> time and resources. Out of thousands and thousands of blocked messages,
> we have rejected TWO... JUST TWO in error. and the only one offended to
> date appears to be a contributor to this list.
> 
> Raven has been a member of this list since I've known her and until just
> a few minutes ago was one of the admins of this list. As I'm typing
> this, she is un-subscribing herself and relinquishing her admin rights..
> Why? My guess is that she's had enough of this... her contributions to
> this list and the time she spends helping its administration should not
> make her a target for abusive commentary because of the way we deal with
> unwanted email.
> 
> Can we give this a rest now? This thread *really* does not belong on the
> "techtalk" list.. does it?
> 
> On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:40, Christina Zeeh wrote:
> .
> >
> > As soon as Raven (or anyone else you're providing with an email
> > address) decides to participate in a discussion on a mailing lists or
> > other forums that are as international as LinuxChix, there is a good
> > chance that someone with a banned email address will reply. And those
> > people have to see your message. And are probably really offended
> > because they tried to provide a helpful/interesting/carefully worded
> > reply to a posting and get that kind of answer.
> >
> > I can't see how one can justify sending email to LinuxChix mailing
> > lists (remember, our rules are "be polite, be helpful"), and risk
> > participants in the discussion being offended (and probably also
> > confused) by such a message. Of course you can do with your server
> > whatever you like. But as soon as you actively participate on a mailing
> > list it is IMHO no longer your personal business what kind of offending
> > messages your server may send to legitimate respondents to your message.
> >
> > It is very likely that most people who will actually see that message
> > are not spammers (I've rarely seen a spam with a valid return-path). It
> > is also very likely that the only people who will really be offended by
> > this message (in addition to the fact that their mail got bounced and
> > the time it takes them to figure out what is actually wrong), are the
> > people who really cared about sending you a message. So maybe you want
> > to think about rewording the message to be less offensive and more
> > helpful -- the spammers won't care about it anyway.
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > --
> > "I smile because I have no idea what's going on."
> >
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