3rd [Techtalk] kernel What have i done

Tabatha Persad tabatha3 at attbi.com
Thu Aug 8 02:23:42 EST 2002

Hi Andrew,

It seems to me that you should be able to use the full 2.4.19, and it
sounds like you got it from the best place available.  Any reason for
such a big jump?

I haven't had occasion to do this terribly often, but patching your
kernel can add in sometimes just the support you need.  For example, I
only ever downloaded and installed up to the kernel version I required
to make my sound work properly, rather than all the way up to the most
recent version.

I've never used an RPM to update my kernel, only tar packages, as the
site I use to follow instructions doesn't cover RPM. But I'm mostly a
paranoid type and have too much trouble with RPM dependencies to attempt
it when I know I can build and be sure!

If you visit the site below, it tells you how to do upgrade and patch
the kernel, point everything to the new one, update LILO, and still keep
your old kernel just in case.  The site also explains the difference
between stable and development releases (version number even/odd). 
Overall, if you try updating or patching, this document should get you
through it!


Maybe if you downloaded the next version up from the one that is
working, and do a simple patch test first (starting to sound like a hair
process), to see if the patch will take okay.  If it works, try jumping
to the newest stable release, and see if that goes in okay.  If 2.4.19
is after the latest release, you can try patching to that version.

The reason I say this is maybe there IS a file missing that can to be
patched in before you update to the version you're trying to install. 
I'm not sure if that's the problem, but having a few different ways to
try definitely doesn't hurt!

Give the link above a shot.  I am fairly confident that the "howto" will
guide you through this successfully.

Let me know how it goes!


On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 04:10, Andrew wrote:
> Hi Again,
> Tabatha,
> 	I began this by getting the 2.4.19 source from kernel.org. 
> (Actually this has been an ongoing hurdle, started at 2.4.18 weeks 
> ago.)
> 	Because 2.4.3 is such a big jump to 2.4.19 I thought it good 
> to simply compile a new kernel. This may be where it went wrong. 
> 	At the begining I was not certain where to copy the compiled 
> bzImage file. I did a "make mrproper" to start over and from then on 
> "make *anything*" gives me file not found error. I only get to do 
> this stuff late at night and it is 4am for me. My hope is this server 
> will continue to function tomorrow, now only 4 hours away.
> 	Please Keeep the suggestions coming, I am learning. Can you 
> explain a bit more about targz and patches.
> >On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 03:39, Andrew wrote:
> >>	Yes I did the sym link /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux-2.4.19.
> >>  Then went on to do make dep and got the same old "file not found"
> >>  error, listed in the previous e-mail info.
> >>	I too think make is looking for a file, but do not know
> >>  which,where, or how to fix it. Cleaning out the /usr/src/...file did
> >>  not do anything.
> >>	**So are you saying cleaning it out, as I did, will not
> >>  affect re-boot or start-up? That is good news.
> >
> >Hi Andrew,
> >
> >Excuse me if you already mentioned this, but how are you going about the
> >updating of your kernel?  If I remember correctly, you are supposed to
> >patch up if using tar.gz.  Are you going straight from 2.4.3 to 2.4.19?
> >
> >I don't know if it matters or not, but in the event that it does, the
> >linuxnewbie.org howtos for kernels mention how to patch up as well.
> >This was the way I had to do it to get a specific kernel to recognize my
> >sound card.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Tabatha Persad
> >Web: www.merlinmonroe.com
> >Linux Documentation Project Editor (http://www.tldp.org)
> >Gnu Writing Movement Contributor (http://gwm.gnu.org)
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> -- 
> 	    Have a nice Day!,
> 		Andrew
Tabatha Persad
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