[techtalk] problems upgrading to gnome 1.2 and enlightenment 0.16.4

[Malcolm Tredinnick]

On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:43:06PM -0700, colin parr wrote:
> Hope somebody can help - I'm having a complete nightmare trying to upgrade 
> to the above over a standard RH6.1 install (completely fresh - I thought I'd 
> start over...) on a PIII 500MHz, 64MB, RIVA 32MB TNT2 dual boot w W98.

Don't dream it ... do it!  (Sorry, lame nighmare joke :-( )

> The RH6.1 goes fine - everything working as you'd expect.  I then apply the 
> RPMs for gnome 1.2 with only one problem - ggv-0.5.3-1 complains about not 
> having the bonobo libraries but that's OK 'cos its only an application, 
> right?  However, I'm a bit dubious that the install has gone 100% as nothing 
> much seems to change...  so first question : is there any place I can look 
> to convince myself that the gnome install has gone OK and I'm now running 
> 1.2?  Apologies if this is a silly question - this is the first time I've 
> tried to do this.

I'm not sure of the answer to this, but see below for some hints on
working out what really is installed and being executed..

> Anyway I then try to upgrade enlightenment.  I apply the imlib-1.9.8-1 and 
> fnlib-0.5-1 RPMs and then the enlightenment-0.16.4-1 RPM and again 
> everything appears to go swimmingly until I restart enlightenment whereupon 
> I get the nasty grey box popping up saying -
> 
> "Enlightenment could not initialise imlib."
> 
> which isn't good and causes enlightenment to exit pretty rapidly.  Does 
> anyone have any ideas?

When you say you "applied" the RPMs, what do you mean exactly? Did you
do 'rpm -i ...' or 'rpm -U ...'. The first version installs the rpms,
but will not remove any older versions, the second one updates older
versions to the newer packages (the same as removing the old package
before installing the new one).

Could you check which version(s) of enlightenment the system thinks it
has installed and is going to run? Try 'rpm -q enlightenment imlib
fnlib' to see the package versions of each. You could also run 'rpm -qf
/usr/bin/enlightenment' which tells you which package your system thinks
the enlightenment binary is from.

My initial guess is that you have somehow fooled it into running
enlightenment 0.16.14 against an older version of the imlib library
which is still installed.  But that is just a guess taken from what you
wrote above.

> I can't see what's gone wrong - the only thing I can think of is to try to
> install from source but I'd prefer to figure out this and hopefully save
> myself some time if that doesn't make any difference.

This is unlikely to solve anything if your problem is somehow related to
the RPMs you already have installed.

One useful tip, if you get everything running perfectly: I am assuming
you are upgrading from the default enlightenment that comes with RH6.1
(version 0.15.x). In that case, remove all the 'dot' files from your
.enlightenment directory in $HOME (I mean, all the files matching .???*
-- so don't try to remove . and .., of course :-) ). If you don't do
this, enlightenment gets a bit confused internally about what version it
is running and you don't get the functionality of version 16 (although
it still runs, so you often don't realise that something is askew).

Cheers,
Malcolm

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Malcolm Tredinnick            email: malcolm at commsecure.com.au
CommSecure Pty Ltd
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