[Techtalk] HP3970 scanner with sane

[Anne Wainwright]

Later.......... about midnight later ....

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:51:01 +0200
Anne wrote:

|> Rudy, & Akkana,
|> 
|> Thanks for the tips.
|> 
|> I do indeed have hotplug, and probably udev now as well.
|> 
|> The hp3970 is labelled as NEW on the SANE site so in that respect it is cutting edge. I have found that it does have a standalone option that works ..  $3900   but it is a command line option and not the sort of thing for quick multiple scans.
|> 
|> I'll try the live distro route first, have a knoppix hiding somewhere.

I have knoppix 3.7 which I observe also uses hotplug. It behaved in the same way.

Scanner detected by $ sane-find-scanner
Scanner undetected by $ xscanimage, and whatever the k-word is for the main graphical scanner utility in the knoppix distribution (koogle?)

So next thing will be to load a new distro or maybe download a new knoppix, but not this week.

Anne




|> 
|> Yes, with recent troubles time to update. I still have a 'potato' distro running faithfully at work, dual boot on a dos machine, it was the easiest way to network it and get files off onto other Win machines - that was where i started!
|> 
|> Thanks
|> Anne
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:24:29 +0200
|> Rudy wrote:
|> 
|> |> Hi Anne,
|> |> 
|> |> Again, all i can do is point in a direction...
|> |> 
|> |> One reason is i've never playd yet with scanners and linux.
|> |> 
|> |> Anne Wainwright wrote:
|> |> > Hi all,
|> |> >
|> |> > Trying to get hp scanjet3970 to work
|> |> > find 'NEW' driver stuff on SANE site
|> |> >
|> |> > all updated
|> |> > scanner / usb module loaded
|> |> > 'scanner' in /etc/modules  (debian stuff)
|> |> > see scanner drivers mentioned in dmesg so all goes ok at startup
|> |> >
|> |> > #sane-find-scanner finds it (says (probably) in brackets)*
|> |> > #scanimage -L does not find it
|> |> > #quiteinsane reports no devices found
|> |> >
|> |> > the driver is featured "NEW!" on the sane site, and it has a standalone option (ie I suppose you don't have to worry about updating sane if you have issues with that).
|> |> >
|> |> > I have tried both standalone and sane  installations, but doesn't go either way. Oddly, I find nowhere in the readme any way to call the standalone option. Do I misunderstand the use of this, won't it have a name like Xsane or quiteinsane?
|> |> >
|> |> > * only when I run as root. it then says 'once you have found the scanner devices adjust access permissions as necessary'. can someone expand please? I see under /dev/usb there are scanner entries (like -scanner0 to -scanner15) which are all set at 666 and owner is root/root
|> |> >
|> |> >   
|> |> This points to a mis-alignment somewhere. The group owner should be 
|> |> 'scanner', yet it isn't. These device entries are almost certainly 
|> |> dynamic, which means either hotplug or udev creates them. You'll have to 
|> |> find out which of the two your system is using. On on older system the - 
|> |> now no longer used - hotplug is the most likely. Then find the hotplug 
|> |> rules, and modify those to contain the correct group owner for scanner 
|> |> devices.
|> |> 
|> |> Sorry for not being more specific. This is a case where i can recognise 
|> |> which corner it is, but have no knowledge of the specific corner ;(
|> |> 
|> |> Cheers,
|> |> 
|> |> Rudy
|> |> 
|> |> > There is a group called scanner and I am a member of that
|> |> >
|> |> > Any help gratefully received.
|> |> >
|> |> > Anne
|> |> >
|> |> >
|> |> >
|> |> >   
|> |> 
|> 
|> 


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