[Techtalk] Politeness and the purpose of Techtalk

gebhard dettmar gebhard.dettmar at student.hu-berlin.de
Sat Oct 30 19:56:13 EST 2004

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On Friday 29 October 2004 00:25, David Sumbler wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Terri Oda wrote:
> > On Oct 28, 2004, at 9:42 AM, Conor Daly wrote:
> >> [...]
> Sorry, I'm not on grrls-only or grrltalk, 'cos I'm not a grrl; I'm not
> sure what 'issues' is/are, and linuxchix.org seems to be temporarily
> inaccessible so I can't find out.  So I'm replying here.
Did the mentioned behaviour occur on this list? I read the list but 
insulting/aggressive postings didn't appear to me. But anyway, if it 
occurred here then why not discussing it here (and telling the 
offender of guidelines which are simple enough to be 
intelligible for everyone to go trolling elsewhere)
> If one or two list subscribers have upset some of the others, then
> that is certainly something that must be dealt with.  But if these one
> or two happen to be male, then please don't think of penalising all
> the males on the lists - we're not all neanderthals.  If I'm one of
> the offenders (which obviously I hope I'm not), then please tell me
> about it.
> [...]
> I know, I've been on the receiving end of this treatment; then one day
> I suddenly realized what was going on, and what pathetic idiots these
> guys are.
well said
> That's why I value Linuxchix.  Not because most of you are female, but
> because of your ethos of trying to be polite, helpful and encouraging.
> It's sad that it takes a mostly female group to insist on behaviour
> which, I should have thought, ought to be the norm.  But there it is.
> At the same time, I can see that it is just possible that there might
> be a few female LinuxChix subscribers who actually do not like having
> answers from males, however well-intentioned.  If that is the case
> then, in order to be true to the original purpose of LinuxChix, you
> might just have to ban males from answering queries.  If that is the
> case, it's a shame, but so be it.  But perhaps we could still be
> allowed to ask questions?
Hmm. I don't know if this was a good solution. It would mean something 
like: We're not complete Neanderthals (we're still allowed to post 
but we're not fully civilized human beings (we're not allowed to answer 
questions). If females on this list wouldn't appreciate receiving answers 
from males the only proper solution was IMHO making it women-only.
> David
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