[Techtalk] Over-zealous spam filtering (by Raven's ISP?)

[Raven Brooke]

I'm sorry if the filtering on our mailservers has inconvenienced anyone on 
the linuxchiq lists. For more detailed information about the situation, 
please point your browser at:

http://banned-for-spamming.us/about-the-spam-policy.txt


On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, James wrote:

> As you can probably tell from my email address, I try to filter out as 
> much spam as I can - however, it's easy to get "friendly fire". 
> 
> I just hit this issue when emailling Raven - her mail server bounced my 
> mail with an error referring me to http://banned-for-spamming.us/ - if you 
> look, you'll find her ISP has blocked my ISP (1m customers) - and EVERY 
> company in Japan (*.co.jp) for "spamming". Oh, and the ban appears to be 

well, not *every* company, I get email from my favorite Japanese 
snack-n-anime company no fewer than 3*/wk  :-)
the *.co.jp ban has been lifted, though it was the result of individually 
banning >12 such addresses.


> permanent, unless you contact them by snail-mail (not online) to object!

it wouldn't be very practical to expect them to email after we had blocked 
their domain, and we certainly aren't going to provide known spammers with 
a webform or other additional means to continue targeting us.


> 
> (It's also pretty rude: "553 ##### YOU HAVE BEEN SHIT-LISTED **..." - 
> hardly a helpful message to send other Net users!


I'm sorry if this offended you, but if you saw even a small percentage of 
the "XXX These women will actually fsck animals! XXX" mails that caused us 
to create the banned-for-spamming.us domain you might agree that this is a 
very mild response.

> 
> Among others, they have blocked ALL mail from: Chello, the largest cable
> ISP in Holland; Rogers cable; CharterPipeline; *.co.jp;  Eudoramail.com;
> GMX; the University of Waterloo, Canada; Wanadoo, France's broadband ISP -
> with filters like that, does ANY mail get through?!
> 


yup, all these offenders are guilty, guilty guilty of sending unsolicited 
and sometimes highly offensive material to us and/or our friends, family 
(including our teenage children) and the few others who share our 
mailserver. They bring this stuff in our home once, we don't invite 'em 
back.


> 
> James.

Once again James, I apologise if you or anyone on the list was 
inconvenienced. Thank you for being concerned :-)


Cheers,

Raven

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