[Techtalk] Laptop recommendations? (was: Random: MS problem, Linux solution...)
Michael Carson
mikecarson at usa.net
Wed Jan 23 14:04:14 EST 2002
Raven, corporate courtesan wrote
>
> In other news -- I will be getting a new laptop with my tax
>return this year, and putting Debian on it. Does anyone have
>recommendations for laptops that they particularly like, or have worked
>particularly well with Linux? I'm trying to do some research in
>advance. I've had generally good luck in the past with Dells or with
>IBM ThinkPads, but I've only helped friends with their installs. I've
>never gotten to keep the laptop, so I don't know what they're like to
>actually run.
>
> A good network card is the most essential thing. (90% of what
>I'll be doing with it is remote administration, network pen testing, and
>such.) I don't much care about a nice graphics card (though it has to
>be able to run 1024x768 X) or super-quality sound card. Playing MP3s
>would be good, but I can't even tell the difference between tape quality
>and CD quality, so I'm not an audio snob. Lots of hard drive space so I
>can do forensics on the go would be nice, and lots of memory because I
>generally have ten million xterms open at any one time.
>
> Any recommendations, horror stories, things to get, things to
>avoid?
>
Oh, laptops - one of my favorite things. I've been a ThinkPad fan
for as long as I've had a portable. They're well designed, meaning they
often perform better than their specs would indicate, durable and tend
to support Linux well. In fact, I think IBM may well install RH on at
least one TP model currently.
That said, I've developed a real aversion to heavy machines lately,
and I demand an internal optical drive, since an external, especially an
external IDE, drive can be a real PITA. So I went and bought a Fujitsu
S-4546. It has also proven durable and is a good performer. RH Linux
7.1 installed on it smoothly. The internal Ethernet works fine, and
1024x768 under X was brainless. The DVD drive works including movie
playback. The external USB floppy works, although I find I barely use
it. In short, everything works, except the Winmodem, which I haven't
tried. Sound is a little spotty, since the sound chip is supported only
a 48KHz, 16 bit (the DVD sound spec, evidently). Sox translates, but
the version of esd I have has poor sound quality. Occasionally, the
sound hardware hangs, so nothing plays back until I suspend/resume the
machine. Yeah, suspend/resume works, but I couldn't get hibernate to
work. The machine can warm swap batteries, but the individual battery
life is only about two hours, depending on what's going on. If you want
to watch a movie on battery, get a spare, they aren't that expensive
(US$130). The partioning was weird, I had to blow the Windows partition
away, along with the "software recovery" partition and reinstall Windows
from a Win98 disk I had and the drivers CD Fujitsu sent.
So I'm all happy. That's nice. You, on the other hand, hate
touchpads and this one has one. I won't say I never hit it by mistake,
but it's rare. You might like the P-series from Fujitsu better. The
URL is
http://www.fpc.fujitsu.com/www/products_notebooks.shtml?products/notebooks/p_series
. This is a 3.3 pound machine running a Crusoe at 800MHz. 20 GB HD,
256MB RAM max. It uses an eraser mouse since there is no room for a
touchpad. It's barely wider than it's built-in DVD/CD-RW drive and
costs US$1800 for the loaded version. This is a different machine, so
what works or doesn't may be different, but nothing I see in the specs
gives me pause. I've never seen a built-in Ethernet module not work on
a recent notebook (they all seem to be Intel EtherPros) but if by some
mischance this one doesn't work, there is a PC Card slot for something
that will work. Yes, I'm in lust with this thing.
A great resource is the Linux Laptops home page, at
http://www.linux-laptop.net/ where you can find installation reports
from all sorts of machines. I've noticed that the reports are sometimes
kinda old, and newer versions of software fix a lot of the "sort of
working" type problems. No mention of the P-series yet - it's too new.
The listing for my machine is old, but still pretty reliable.
The thing about laptops is that they are extremely personal. The
models I've babbled about are ones I like. I think I've answered your
stated concerns, but if there are any more details that need to be
ironed out, let me know, and I'll see what I can find. I keep half an
eye on this space, due to my unfortunate gear addiction.
And if you're going to be at BlackHat in a couple of weeks, let me
know. With luck both I and my laptop will be there.
C.
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