[Techtalk] rxvt - was: Re: End key no longer goes to EOL

Telsa Gwynne hobbit at aloss.ukuu.org.uk
Tue Jan 15 10:34:30 EST 2002

On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 05:21:42PM -0800 or thereabouts, Akkana wrote:
> The only thing I really dislike about rxvt, which is also true of most
> of the other linux terminal emulators, is that (as distributed) page up
> and page down don't.  You have to hold down the shift key to page up or
> down.  Whose bright idea was that, and why does everybody copy it on
> linux?  No other Unix has ever done that; no other linux app behaves
> like that; I'm not aware of any app on any other platform that behaves
> like that.  And it serves no purpose (arrow keys and ctrl-p/n work
> fine for moving around in history without stealing the paging keys).

As a guess: is it because PgUp and PgDn have functions in many 
programs you might run in a terminal? gnome-terminal has the
"hold shift down too" thing as well. But I am glad of that, because
PgUp and PgDn do things in mutt and in my editor.

On the console, I thought you had to hold down shift to get 
scrollback; but I have moved into X full-time now, and I'm not
at all sure :)

> The other bug is that you can't select multiple screens at once (i.e.
> if you select a whole page and keep dragging out of the window, most
> apps will scroll for you so you can keep selecting, but rxvt won't).

You mean that the window will scroll up (or down)? And that the
selection continues? Or something else?

> One of the "neat features that xterm-derived programs have" is that
> you can change the word boundary definitions so that double-clicking
> will (usually) select a whole url, which you can then middlemouse-paste
> into your browser window.  Since I switch between several different
> browsers (galeon, mozilla, NS6.x, NS4, and occasionally others)
> it's too likely at any given time that "my browser of choice" isn't
> the one I actually have running right then.

gnome-terminal lets you alter the word boundaries; and although I
have lynx (!) as the browser which starts, that's not a lot of use
if the thing ends with a .jpg; so I still end up pasting some
things into various windows, yes. 

> White backgrounds make my eyes hurt almost immediately.  I use black
> on light grey, which for some reason is much easier on my eyes than
> white.

Yes. I used to think the light grey looked a bit shabby. I changed
it to white, and winced, and changed it straight back! I have light
grey, rather than white, foreground on a purply colour background: 
the purple is one of windowmaker's default options for the root w
indow; and I made my default terminal transparent to that. 

For me, this works great. It doesn't glare, which I find the big
problem with white backgrounds.


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