(No Offence)Re: [Techtalk] Aren't boys wonderful!

[Xp0nential Xp0nential]

No offense to anyone ,
but I don't believe this thread belongs in here.
Lets not go to this kind of subjects obviously because the issue itself is stupid (what I mean by that is the fact that there are people like that is not worth discussing).
I don't have respect for such people, nor do I think anyone with a little bit of intelligence does. So lets avoid talking about them

Regards,
Xp0nential


--- Jenn Vesperman <jenn at anthill.echidna.id.au> wrote:
>On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 11:02, Jennifer Davis wrote:
>> This is probably an issues post.  
>
>It is, so I'm moving the thread. Reply to issues, please.
>
>> It's not that I am terribly shaken up by this.  I
>> mean, who's sex hasn't been questioned on line.  
>
>I'm getting that on the online games, now I'm actually starting to play
>them. With the more intelligent people, I point out that if they treat
>women as an exception, women will always feel like outsiders. The smart
>ones get the point - and hopefully conceal their amazement next time.
>
>>  It
>> makes the internet so insular.  We shut out the contact with others in
>> favour ot being broadcast to via the web as it is the less
>> objectionable. 
>
>Hrm. That's a point I hadn't considered. I think you may be right - I
>avoid IRC and instant messaging, because I get so tired of it... I
>haven't had an instant messaging ap running since .. hrm. Well I played
>with it for less than a month when ICQ was new. So how long is that?
>
>I get people who can't imagine me not having an instant messaging
>service. I've actually been told I'm lying.
> 
>> I just really wish I had some things in my head ready to go when I see
>> stupid sexism. 
>
>Well, for the smart ones who are simply amazed that you're female, try
>my response. For the stupid ones .. I don't know. I don't know if they
>can be taught.
>
>> I realise that this is nothing new to most of you.  This is nothing
>> compared to some of the nastiness, or just plain ignorance, not all of
>> it being sexist in nature. 
>
>Actually, from previous conversations, there are women who report not
>having experienced sexism. A hopeful sign!
>
>>  I have dealt with in the past, like, hmm,
>> having a client demand to speak to a man because women don't know
>> anything about fixing computers, 
>
>Oh yes!
>
>> or being groped in a server room,
>> because obviously I was going to see the systems administrator and not
>> rebooting a server. 
>
>That - thankfully - hasn't happened to me. I hope you whacked whoever it
>was over the head with an old removable hard drive. The ones it took two
>hands to carry.
>
>>  I've been lied to (condescended to by ignorant clerks) in
>> stores, been given the "do a scandisk and defrag and call me back (after
>> my shift is over)" scam by tech support at work.   
>
>I've been condescended to, but thankfully most of my tech support comes
>from my husband. He always knew better.
>
>> I could just imagine the nonsense that women who are more directly in
>> the field or who have been at it longer have seen and heard.
>
>Yup.
>
>>   I just wish the forums that
>> come with the territory weren't so, well, like the rest of the world.
>
>That's part of what Linuxchix is for. Its partly a sheltered zone, where
>you can get the info you need even if you who can't/don't want to deal
>with the crap that's out there. 
>It's also an activist centre, though the issues list has been quiet of
>late. WHich reminds me, I have a thread to start.
> 
>> Thanks for listening to my rant. 
>
>
>You're welcome. ANd I like your response.
>
>
>Jenn V.
>-- 
>    "Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture 
>        	you miss out on by being a geek?" - Dancer.
>
>jenn at anthill.echidna.id.au     http://anthill.echidna.id.au/~jenn/
>
>
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