[Techtalk] New to the list...new to linux

[the sunlover2]

Dear Tianna:
I start to worry about you. You are in big danger of deleting these files by 
accident- sincerely hope you haven't done so. If they are important and you 
have no backup, the only thing you can do then is crying :-(

My friendly suggestion:
1) read some books and get the basic knowledge;
2) do some experiments;
3) come back to do your job.

Don't expect online friends to babysit you. Your questions are too simple to 
be answered. You can not ask people here to teach you Unix 1, 2, 3, and A, 
B, C. If you can not figure out the basic stuff by yourself, leave this 
monster alone- Unix can eat you. Go to click your mouse on Windows.








>From: "Tianna Thomas" <tiannat at hitsites.com>
>Reply-To: <tiannat at hitsites.com>
>To: <techtalk at linuxchix.org>
>Subject: RE: [Techtalk] New to the list...new to linux
>Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:43:07 -0700
>
>OK, I DID IT!  My files have been copied...now I have to figure out how to
>get access to those files to edit them.  I might need help but I'm going to
>TRY to get it on my own.
>
>Thanks SO MUCH for your help.  Figuring out how to do even that simple
>procedure would have taken me all weekend.  I have to say that I've never
>gotten quite this calibre of assistance from any of my ASP or NT lists.  I
>might actually make it through this as long as you guys don't get tired of
>*stupid* questions.
>
>Oh yeah, I called my boss...we have a meeting Monday to discuss bringing in
>a consultant.  I want to learn this now, the box and I are at war.
>
>Tianna
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: techtalk-admin at linuxchix.org
>[mailto:techtalk-admin at linuxchix.org]On Behalf Of Kai MacTane
>Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:19 PM
>To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
>Subject: RE: [Techtalk] New to the list...new to linux
>
>
>At 9/29/01 06:08 PM , Tianna Thomas wrote:
> >Ok, I think I got it but I've got one minor detail to clear up.  Where do 
>I
> >need to be in the tree?  Let me explain it like this.
> >
> >I need to copy the contents of (sub-dirs and everything)
> >
> >/hsphere/local/home/cpanel/shiva/shiva-templates
> >to
> >/hsphere/local/home/cpanel/shiva/custom-templates
> >
> >so that I can access and work with the files without affecting the live
> >application.  Should I execute the command from the SHIVA or from within
>the
> >SHIVA-TEMPLATES dir?
>
>If you're copying rather than moving, you can do it from either place.
>However, it will be easier to explain and understand if you do it from the
>/hsphere/local/home/cpanel/shiva directory. Then the command is simply:
>
>     cp -a shiva-templates custom-templates
>
>You can include a trailing slash on shiva-templates/ or not, as you choose;
>in this case, it shouldn't make any difference.
>
>You can quit reading now and run that command, if you just want to get
>things done. Or, if you want to really understand some stuff about the Unix
>file structure, read on...
>
>If you want to run the command from the shiva-templates directory, the easy
>way to do it is:
>
>     cp -a . ../custom-templates
>
>This is because every Unix (including Linux) directory contains at least
>two entries, which you don't see in ls unless you throw the -a switch.
>Those entries are . and ..; . represents the current directory, while ..
>represents the parent directory. So, if you're in
>/hsphere/local/home/cpanel/shiva/shiva-templates, you can type "cd ..", and
>you'll be in /hsphere/local/home/cpanel/shiva/ . Another cd .. will bring
>you up to /hsphere/local/home/cpanel/ -- or, you could have gotten there in
>one shot by typing cd ../.. and executing that.
>
>cd . is a perfectly legitimate command, too, although it's also a pretty
>useless one. For that matter, ls .. will show you the contents of the
>parent directory. I think you get the idea by now.
>
>Finally, I should explain why I said "If you're copying rather than moving,
>you can do it from either place." What would be different if you were
>moving the directory? Simple: then you couldn't do it from within the
>directory, because once you'd moved it, your CWD (current working
>directory) would no longer exist. I *think* that mv would give you an error
>if you tried it, but I haven't checked.
>
> >I appreciate all the detailed help.  This is worse than trying to learn a
> >new programming language alone.
>
>It's a fairly big project, I'll agree. When I was learning Unix, I had the
>advantage of previous DOS experience. This not only meant I had experience
>with a language that had been based on Unix; it also meant that I had
>experience with a command-line interface, which I think was actually much
>more important. If all you're used to is GUIs, the command-line way of
>thinking will take some time to get used to.
>
>                                                  --Kai MacTane
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Lucretia, my reflection, dance the ghost with me."
>                                                  --Sisters of Mercy,
>                                                   "Lucretia, My
>                                                    Reflection"
>
>
>
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