[techtalk] grip stalling with gtcd

[Telsa Gwynne]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 08:28:57AM -0800 or thereabouts, buddy guy wrote:
> Hoping someone out there might have some advice
> I am using grip with cdparanoia as my ripper and lame
> as my encoder.
> Periodically  I will get this error (pop up window
> produced by grip) while ripping a cd
> ___________
> warning 
> gtcd--sm-client-id 11189(long string of
> integers)......
> 
> No response to the SaveYourself command.
> The program may be slow, stopped or broken.
> You may wait for it to respond or remove it.
> _______________
...
> Has anyone encountered this warning before??
> can anyone help me interpret it???
> 
> I am running
> grip-2.95-1
> cdparanoia-alpha9.7-5

This really is an area where I'm not clear on what's happening, so
there is a reason for the "I think", "in my understanding" and
similar here :) I know what's happening, but I don't understand
why. 

That's not grip throwing it up. That's gsm, the gnome-session-manager.

This is quoted directly from a conversation on IRC which I pasted into
my "stuff that doesn't go anywhere else" file. I knew it would come in
handy :) 

The session manager in GNOME periodically contains all the programs
registered with it and instructs them to save their state. (That's
the SaveYourself command.) If a client doesn't respond, the session
manager notices and displays the error. 

On the error dialogue, "Cancel" means "Ignore this" and "Remove
Program" means "remove it from the list of connected clients but
let it keep running". 

The person who told me this added that examples of when a client
doesn't respond are because it's not handling gtk signals because
it's stopped in a debugger, or is somehow not running the main
loop. I'm not sure what that means.

I have seen it but I can't remember the circumstances. I think it
may have been when my networking is set up wrongly and everything
is consequently running very very slowly. (GNOME likes networking 
to be set up right, which can be a pain when you take your laptop
which normally lives in one place and plug it in somewhere else :))

Telsa (making a note to bugzilla "crap error message" :))