[techtalk] *nix comparisons?

[curious]

In terms of major distributions I would divide them into a few
familyies(sic):
debian:
	debian
	corel
	storm

redhat:
	redhat
	mandrake

other major distributions:
	suse
	turbo
	caldera

everything else :) 

members of the debian family are "at the core" based on debian... ie the
libraries and rc scripts will typicaly be the same and in the same
places.. this typicaly means that packages between distributions
can be used interchangeably..further debian maintains very strict
adhearance to the standard FSH, file system heirarchy.. which means ALL
your system config will be somewhere under etc.. ALL your logs will be
somewhere under var/log and so forth thus is quite diffrent the redhat
line which occasionaly vears off to do it's own thing.. 

members of the redhat family of distributions are based on redhat and
packages can typicaly be used interchangably.. Mandrake is what I consider
a RedHat-Plus distribution.. they bascily took the redhat distribution and
one upped it.. it was started to because redhat didn't initialy include
KDE and there was a strong demand for it.. after that they made just about
everything compiled as "pentium optimized" so it ran faster.. then they
added a much better install system and now with 7.1 they included the
contriversal (but realy nice :) )reiserFS (journaling filesystem) and
XFree4.0... 

the other major distributions.. although they use the rpm format they
shouln't be considered "rpm compatible" with redhat.. SUSE (the only other
major distribution to include reiserFS) solves this by including anything
and everything with their distribution :)

Personaly I run Mandrake on my personal systems, RedHat on corp systems
(other people chose this :) ).. and Debian on key security systems... 

Now that you made it this far.. I'm going to go off slightly on a pet
peeve I have with RedHat.. their libpcap/tcpdump... redhat and all thier
kindness added "features" to libpcap and tcpdump.. specificly the ability
to watch more then one interface at a time.. to do this they had to create
a NEW tcpdump format.. I have YET to find any online documentation that
supports this.. any redhat webpage that talks about this at all.. there
doesn't seem to be any real developer's support or anything.. so every
time I want to create a redhat IDS box the first thing I have to do is
PULL out the redhat tcpdump and libpcap junk.. and install a fresh one
from the source.. blech.. the reason libpcap was created in the first
place was to create a PLATFORM INDEPENDANT packet capture library.. and
redhat goes off... apparently on it's own and creates this! 

There are a couple other little peeves.. but I'll spare you all :)

if you made it this far.. you deserve a cookie :)
Chris 

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On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Lilly S. wrote:

> I would be interested in this as well. For the last two years+ I have been
> trying to install various versions of Red Hat, to no avail. The problem is
> dual boot. I installed Red Hat on two machines at work, and they work like
> a charm. I tried today to install Mandrake 7.1 today because it came with
> Maximum Linux, and it worked on the first try. The main difference between
> the two installations was that in Mandrake it kept hda and hdc seperate in
> their listing, and had an extremely useful feature called "suggest
> partition", which had Linux had, it would have saved me and many other
> people tons of hours, and hundreds of dollars (killed the partition table
> twice, and cost me about $400 to repair it).
> 
> Now, my problem is I have Mandrake, and I have never used it before. What
> should I expect? Is it that radically different from Red Hat? DOes it
> really matter in the end what version I have?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lilly
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Julia Coolman wrote:
> 
> > Kind folks:
> > 
> > Please don't be mad. I am thinking of installing netBSD, to play with and
> > to keep my linuxppc partition company.
> > 
> > Before I leap I would like to look over a comparison between the unices,
> > or maybe just a superficial "similarities and differences in UI"  but I
> > have looked to no avail. Has anyone run across a quickie comparison, or am
> > I gonna need to dig deeper?
> > 
> > Thanks, y'all.
> > 
> > Julia Coolman
> > 
> > jcoolman at gladstone.uoregon.edu
> > 
> > 
> > 
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