[techtalk] Re: [grrltalk] Okay, I've d/loaded the Beta KDE2

[Caitlyn M. Martin]

Hi, Carol,

This thread is probably best moved to the techtalk list to get you the=20
maximum number of responses.  I've taken the liberty of crossposting it t=
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both lists in case you aren't subscribed to techtalk yet.  (If you're not=
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highly recommend it.  Nothing but lots of friendly help.)
>
> I read on the list that someone installed the Beta KDE2 and has the opt=
ion
> of running both KDE1 or KDE2. I went to one of the mirror sites and
> d/loaded the .rpms of KDE2, but I don't know how to install it. I looke=
d
> on the KDE site, bbut the install instructions were for the 1.1.1 versi=
on
> and the HOWTO for running both 1 and 2 assume you've already installed =
2.

If you downloaded RPMs there are two ways to install them.  The command l=
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way is to type in:

rpm -ivh <package name>

to install them.  SInce you aren't using the -U option, but rather -1, yo=
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won't overwrite or remove previous versions. =20

If you have KDE1 in place, you can open the super-user mode file manager =
and=20
just click on the downloaded RPMs.  This will open a kpackage window (you=
'll=20
need to enter the root password to get in) and allow you to just click on=
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"install".  Once a kpackage window is open for the first RPM, you can dra=
g=20
and drop the rest into that window.  That way you don't have to=20
reauthenticate each time or end up with many kpackage windows open.

> I'm also not wanting it to screw up my KDE1 and would please like to kn=
ow
> how you did it.

I cannot speak for SuSe, as I did it on a system running Caldera 2.4.  Al=
l I=20
did was install the KDE2 RPMs.  The packagers set things up so that KDE2=20
goes to /opt/kde2 rather than opt/kde. =20

I then chose to adjust my path statement in my .profile to list /opt/kde2=
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first and opt/kde second.  This allowed me to run apps from KDE2 in KDE=20
1.1.2, but then I had to hard-code my menu entries to the=20
/opt/kde/<programname> to run KDE1 apps that were broken in KDE2 or else=20
weren't happy about running in a KDE1 environment.  KSpread, for example,=
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does nothing but crash run from KDE1, but is usable from KDE2.

The effect of all of this is that this message is being typed in the new=20
KMail, which has some minor bugs, but really is very, very nice, despite =
the=20
fact that I am still mostly living in KDE 1.1.2.

Oh, and going back to the install process:  the order which you install t=
he=20
RPMs in does make a difference if you don't want to get a gazillion=20
dependency failures.  Install qt2-2.1.1 first, then all the other qt RPMs=
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then the kdeqtaddon, kdesuppport, kdelibs, kdebase, and all the rest afte=
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that.
>
> I also d/loaded the newest StarOffice and will install that next. It's =
Not
> as easy as windows, but I'm determined. I've had the linux machine up a=
nd
> running almost of the day.

It *is* as easy as Windows, maybe easier.  It is not as easy for *you*=20
because you are coming from a Windows environment which you are used to. =
 If=20
you were learning in Linux first and then had to switch to Windows, you=20
might be making the opposite complaint.

IBM commissioned a study at one point when Microsoft was spreading FUD ab=
out=20
how difficult OS/2 was.  They gave people who had no previous computer=20
experience one OS or the other, and guaged how long it took them to becom=
e=20
proficient in specific tasks, and how easy it was to find help within the=
 OS=20
or the provided docs.  Guess what?  OS/2 was far easier to learn.  Howeve=
r,=20
Microsoft could still spread their FUD because most people weren't starti=
ng=20
from zero.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any and all help in this.

That's what we're here for :)

Take care,
Caity

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Caitlyn M=E1ire Martin
caitlyn at netferrets.net
http://www.caitys-world.com

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