[techtalk] debian problems

[Angela Nash]

First, a task package is just an empty package with a lot of dependencies.
This is an easy way to install a large application, and is NOT uncommon to
see it later removed.  The packages it installed will not be automatically
removed.

The /etc/X11/X file is just a link to your X window server.  Mine points to
/usr/bin/X11/XFree86 since I run XF4.01.  Just relink that file.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Murrain [mailto:mpm at norwottuck.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:44 AM
To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
Subject: [techtalk] debian problems


Hi folks,

Yet another set of problems installing software, but this time, on a debian 
system.

I'm running debian testing (woody) on this particular box. I wanted to 
upgrade postgresql, and needed a lot of picky details, so an apt wasn't
going 
to do it, I needed to install from tarball.

One of the things I wanted to do was begin to use JDBC (java database 
connectivity), and Postgres requires the package "Ant" in order to use JDBC.

(Ant is a Java build tool). OK, so I apt-get ant, and it says it's going to 
install a bunch of stuff, and remove a bunch of stuff. I should have, but 
didn't go through carefully and look at details of what it was installing
and 
removing, but it involved a fair bit of xwindow stuff. I wasn't concerned, 
really, because even if it hosed my X-windows, I figured it wouldn't be a 
problem to get it back, and I don't depend on X for this server at all (it's

a mail/web server primarily).

So, I install ant, and, yes indeedy, my x-window system got hosed. I get
this 
error (cannot stat /etc/X11/X (no such file or directory), aborting.

I am sorta stumped. I remembered that one of the packages ant was going to 
remove (I don't understand why) was task-x-window-system, which I have now 
learned was a major package. (I didn't realize that debian used "task" to 
mean "this is a big package with lots of stuff") I re-installed 
task-x-window-system, but I still get the same error.

Ideas?? Reinstalling the OS at this point is out of the question 1) because
I 
and my partner depend on it for personal mail, and 2) I don't have the time 
to devote to re-setting up the server - it's been tweaked a lot in the last 
year, and 3) I want to learn to solve this problem.

A related topic, that has been raised for me because of this issue and my 
other software install travails (I'm learning to really hate RPM. I'm 
beginning to think I should use only Debian and Slackware, although apt can 
surely screw you sometimes).  I realize that one of the reasons that Linux 
isn't ready for prime time, is 2-3 times out of 10, sometimes more often if 
you are doing a bit more complex stuff, installing software becomes a 
learning experience. That's fine for most of us, and fine for me, but I 
imagine most people don't want to be faced with that when they install 
software...

Michelle
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Michelle Murrain, Ph.D.
President
Norwottuck Technology Resources
mpm at norwottuck.com
http://www.norwottuck.com

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