CAT5 was half out of the NIC, plugged it back in and now they can ping each other. yay! But still slow or nonexistent access to the Debian/Apache/PHP box. - Kathleen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/attachments/20000818/8942c1d8/attachment.xhtml