[Actionchix] Delay in decision making
Gloria
strangest at comcast.net
Thu Jul 6 13:22:33 UTC 2006
*
*
*The one strong recommendation I have about Plone setup is to use what they
call "site product", which is just a fancy name for setting up a file system
based product.*
*This means that your Plone modules are tangible files. You can use command
line version control, and your favorite editor and shell tools to maintain
this code.*
*For example, if you needed to change a field name throughout your code,
you could use 'sed' instead of clicking through the Plone interface and
manually changing each object. *
*Here's a doc on the subject:*
*http://plonebook.packtpub.com/1027_06_PreviewChapter.pdf*
*Let me know if you need my help. *
*Gloria*
> Hi, Mary,
>
> Thanks for keeping us up to date.
>
> Mary Gardiner wrote:
>
>> - by Tuesday 11th July I'm going to have looked at Chris and Amy's
>> information architecture document and any further work on the wiki.
>> Assuming that it is basically together, and I assume it is, I will
>> ask Dancer to set up Plone on the new webserver and begin requesting
>> volunteers to move content. (Probably the old site, with the
>> exception of the news, will be set read-only.)
>>
>>
>
> Is Dancer the only one to be involved in setting up software on the new
> server? I did setup Plone for testing for us and I wrote up some notes
> on the install. Gloria has a bunch of experience with Zope, also. I'm
> not saying that one of should do it instead of Dancer, but to let you
> know that other resources are available for this sort of thing; it's
> sometimes hard to figure out how to offer to help (for example, there
> was very little feedback on the initial Plone install and many other
> things that have been done so far).
>
> It would also be nice to get some chix involved with the sysadmin duties
> of the site (is it just Dancer now or do we have other sysadmins, too?).
> Towards this end, I earlier suggested that for the next install we'd do
> a shared screen session so several people could learn from the process.
> A couple people said they'd be interested in participating in something
> like this.
>
> By the way, on the subject of installing Plone, I noticed that the HTTP
> headers for the current site indicate that we're running ZServer
> directly. These headers might not reflect reality, of course, but if
> they are I'd suggest installing Apache or something else in front of
> ZServer. I've heard that ZServer has some issues handling malformed HTTP
> requests (like susceptibility to DOS attacks)[1]. Also, using a proxy
> would make it easier to integrate other systems.
>
> Jen
>
> [1]: http://docs.neuroinf.de/PloneBook/ch10.rst :
>
> > Although Plone uses Zope's underlying Web server, ZServer
> works just
> > fine -- it's not a complete, industry-strength Web server that
> > should be exposed to the world. The server has several issues
> regarding
> > possible Denial of Service (DOS) attacks; however, these are
> obscure and
> > hard-to-find items within ZServer. No known attacks have been
> performed
> > against ZServer that exploit these issues, but perhaps this is
> because
> > of its relative obscurity in the real world. ZServer isn't
> specifically
> > designed to be an industry-strength server, and since it's feature
> > complete, it's no longer being developed. By keeping a server
> such as
> > Apache up-to-date, you're ensuring that a robust secure server
> is facing
> > the world. Of course, if you're developing an intranet or other
> > application with trusted users, this may not be an issue.
>
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