[Techtalk] Basic Q, can't find answers elsewhere

[mgmonza at iceland.freeshell.org]

Thanks, Sonja and everyone!

This came closest to the solution, or lack thereof.

It seems I have stumbled into the dreaded systemd without being aware of 
it.  That's the answer I needed most, because it let me know that nothing 
I knew before was going to work as expected now, especially system-wise.

The overall solution is to put in the kind of time to understand systemd 
that it took to at least get going on Linux when switching from Unix, or 
to Debian from Redhat (or, for that matter, from TSO/ISPF to Unix - but in 
that case I was supermotived by being stranded on a horrible low-bid 
system called Prime and surrounded by guys who expected me to fail)

This is what I've come up with and where I'm stopping for now:

/etc/rc.local editing will allow me to down the interface as soon as it 
comes up, by simply inserting "sudo ifdown wla0" at the end. This is 
at least before the dm is loaded and what I'm going with for now.

The most promising solution, creating a manual override file for 
network-manager and networking in /etc/init, did nothing.  However, I got 
Bluetooth, another pesky autostart (this laptop doesn't have it) disabled 
before it started this way.

Trying the above on every process with the name networking caused one of 
those system-disabling goofs that started a long but ultimately successful 
session to restore boot-up, using a specific Ubuntu grub boot menu.lst to 
bring up a restore Mint session.

I appreciate everyone's answers.  Even the ones that didn't apply directly 
pointed me to something I learned about the problem.

One other question, if I may ask. No one here seems to use Linux systemd 
or Mint as often as Ubuntu was used when it was one of the best choices. 
Can ask I as what OS's people -are- using now?  I do have SciLinux (RHEL) 
as another option, but have gotten lazy about relearning the ins and outs 
of a different Linux system and just use that for minor specific tasks.

Thanks again for the help!

Kathleen

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 13:14:09 +0200
> From: Sonja Krause-Harder <krauseha at gmail.com>
> To: mgmonza at sdf.lonestar.org
> Cc: LinuchChix - techtalk <techtalk at linuxchix.org>
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] Basic Q, can't find answers elsewhere
> 
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure what linux mint is using these days, but if they've
> switched to systemd as well, googling for "systemd disable autostart"
> might point you in the right direction.
>
> I haven't tried this myself, so this is the only idea I have but maybe
> it still helps. Apologies if it doesn't or you already tried all that.
>
> cheers,
> Sonja
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:38 AM,  <mgmonza at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: