[Techtalk] Ubuntu

Charlie Swain charlie.swain at gmail.com
Thu Oct 14 21:37:08 EST 2004


Last week I went to linux + training, (and got certified <WH00T> )   I
installed my first dual booting box, and I used the Ubuntu which is a
form of debian, I kinda like it.  I normally stay in  a terminal
anyway, trying to use everything I learned.  IF you have any
suggestions on things I should do and try, let me know!

ELF!


On Fri,  8 Oct 2004 12:00:17 +1000 (EST),
techtalk-request at linuxchix.org <techtalk-request at linuxchix.org> wrote:
> Send Techtalk mailing list submissions to
>         techtalk at linuxchix.org
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         techtalk-request at linuxchix.org
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         techtalk-owner at linuxchix.org
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Techtalk digest..."
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Monitoring Programs (Phil Savoie)
>    2. Re: Monitoring Programs (miriam clinton (iriXx))
>    3. Re: Monitoring Programs (kim)
>    4. Re: Monitoring Programs (Helen)
>    5. Re: Monitoring Programs (Devdas Bhagat)
>    6. errors compiling glibc-2.3.3 (Darlene Wallach)
>    7. Re: errors compiling glibc-2.3.3 (Wim De Smet)
>    8. Re: errors compiling glibc-2.3.3 (Terri Oda)
>    9. Re: Monitoring Programs (Travis Casey)
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 05:12:19 -0400
> From: Phil Savoie <psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> To: <techtalk at linuxchix.org>
> Subject: [Techtalk] Monitoring Programs
> Message-ID: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="us-ascii"
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Message: 1
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Would like to know if there are monitoring programs that monitor the
> following: server processes, memory, bandwidth, routers,
> servers, hosts.
> 
> What do you use for this?
> 
> Thank you ,
> 
> Phil
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 07:02:07 -0700
> From: "miriam clinton (iriXx)" <dev_null at iriXx.org>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] Monitoring Programs
> Message-ID: <41654C5F.4000609 at iriXx.org>
> In-Reply-To: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> References: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Reply-To: dev_null at iriXx.org
> Message: 2
> 
> Phil Savoie wrote:
> 
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Would like to know if there are monitoring programs that monitor the
> >following: server processes, memory, bandwidth, routers,
> >servers, hosts.
> >
> >What do you use for this?
> >
> there are applets for WindowMaker that sit in the corner of the
> screen... i've also seen similiar things for gnome i think... but they
> tend to only show memory, machine temps and CPU. might be easy to hack...
> 
> mC~
> 
> --
> 99% of aliens prefer Earth
> --Eminem
> 
> www.iriXx.org
> www.copyleftmedia.org.uk
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:29:10 +0200 (CEST)
> From: "kim" <kim42 at inode.at>
> To: <psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Cc: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] Monitoring Programs
> Message-ID: <213.229.1.138.1097159350.wm at webmail.inode.at>
> In-Reply-To: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> References: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Precedence: list
> Message: 3
> 
> Well, nagios is a good shot at monitoring all server prozesses, what ever
> you like: server processes, memory, routers, servers, hosts......., you
> can monitor everything except bandwitdth (i think) , but you should have =
> a
> good knowledge of snmp - nagios sends alerts to inform you of all types o=
> f
> warnings and critical situations of your services that you configured! bu=
> t
> it can get quite complicated the more you want it to do, the complicated
> it get's but that's my opinion.
> 
> about bandwidth i would say nettoll it'S pretty nice but it's not gpl yet=
> .
> the question is, if you only have 1 host or if you want to monitor a
> network, and what exacly you want to know about the bandwidth!
> for example: nstats: nstats is a collection of utilities to monitor and
> analyse your network. It includes a bandwidth monitor, a connection
> monitor, and tools to analyse network traffic and break it down to get
> various statistics.
> 
> which quite has every thing you will need, allthough i like nettoll a
> little more! :)
> 
> regards
> kim
> 
> Hi All,
> >
> > Would like to know if there are monitoring programs that monitor the
> > following: server processes, memory, bandwidth, routers,
> > servers, hosts.
> >
> > What do you use for this?
> >
> > Thank you ,
> >
> > Phil
> > _______________________________________________
> > Techtalk mailing list
> > Techtalk at linuxchix.org
> > http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 10:32:23 -0400
> From: Helen <hrosseau at rogers.com>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] Monitoring Programs
> Message-ID: <200410071032.23256.hrosseau at rogers.com>
> In-Reply-To: <41654C5F.4000609 at iriXx.org>
> References: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
>         <41654C5F.4000609 at iriXx.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Message: 4
> 
> Are you looking for something like ntop?
> 
> Helen
> 
> On Thursday 07 October 2004 10:02, miriam clinton (iriXx) wrote:
> > Phil Savoie wrote:
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >Would like to know if there are monitoring programs that monitor the
> > >following: server processes, memory, bandwidth, routers,
> > >servers, hosts.
> > >
> > >What do you use for this?
> >
> > there are applets for WindowMaker that sit in the corner of the
> > screen... i've also seen similiar things for gnome i think... but they
> > tend to only show memory, machine temps and CPU. might be easy to hack...
> >
> > mC~
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:16:07 +0530
> From: Devdas Bhagat <devdas at dvb.homelinux.org>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] Monitoring Programs
> Message-ID: <20041007211607.A3299 at evita.devdas.geek>
> In-Reply-To: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>;
>         from psavoie1783 at rogers.com on Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:12:19AM -0400
> References: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Precedence: list
> Reply-To: Devdas Bhagat <devdas at dvb.homelinux.org>
> Message: 5
> 
> On 07/10/04 05:12 -0400, Phil Savoie wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Would like to know if there are monitoring programs that monitor the
> > following: server processes, memory, bandwidth, routers,
> > servers, hosts.
> >
> 
> Nagios. http://www.nagios.org/
> 
> You could write your own hooks into SNMP with Net::SNMP and
> http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net
> 
> Pretty graphs can be generated with MRTG, Cricket, Cacti, or your own
> graphing routines (I like GD::Graph).
> 
> Ntop (http://www.ntop.org/) is useful for a moderate level of traffic
> analysis. It does some simple bandwidth monitoring, but that isn't hard
> to do with other scripts as well.
> 
> Devdas Bhagat
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:02:19 -0700
> From: Darlene Wallach <wallachd at earthlink.net>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: [Techtalk] errors compiling glibc-2.3.3
> Message-ID: <416592BB.6030806 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Message: 6
> 
> I got the following errors compiling glibc-2.3.3
> 
> I looked in /usr/local/src/glibc-2.3.3/elf/dl-runtime.c and
> /usr/local/src/glibc-2.3.3/sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h
> 
> I have no idea what to do to correct the errors.
> 
> Can anyone suggest what I might have done wrong?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Darlene
> 
> gcc dl-runtime.c -c -std=gnu99 -O2 -Wall -Winline
> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -g
> -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -fexceptions
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables   -I../include -I.
> -I/usr/local/src/glibc-build/elf -I.. -I../libio
> -I/usr/local/src/glibc-build -I../sysdeps/i386/elf
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread -I../sysdeps/pthread
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/i386/i686
> -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/i386 -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386
> -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../sysdeps/gnu
> -I../sysdeps/unix/common -I../sysdeps/unix/mman
> -I../sysdeps/unix/inet -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/i386
> -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/unix/i386 -I../sysdeps/unix
> -I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/i386/i686/fpu
> -I../sysdeps/i386/i686 -I../sysdeps/i386/i486
> -I../sysdeps/i386/fpu -I../sysdeps/i386 -I../sysdeps/wordsize-32
> -I../sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-96 -I../sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64
> -I../sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754
> -I../sysdeps/generic/elf -I../sysdeps/generic -I
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-3/build/include -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include
> ../include/libc-symbols.h       -o
> /usr/local/src/glibc-build/elf/dl-runtime.o -MD -MP -MF
> /usr/local/src/glibc-build/elf/dl-runtime.o.dt
> dl-runtime.c:56: error: conflicting types for 'fixup'
> ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:158: error: previous declaration of
> 'fixup' was here
> dl-runtime.c:56: error: conflicting types for 'fixup'
> ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:158: error: previous declaration of
> 'fixup' was here
> dl-runtime.c:141: error: conflicting types for 'profile_fixup'
> ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:161: error: previous declaration of
> 'profile_fixup' was here
> dl-runtime.c:141: error: conflicting types for 'profile_fixup'
> ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:161: error: previous declaration of
> 'profile_fixup' was here
> ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:158: warning: 'fixup' declared
> `static' but never defined
> ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:161: warning: 'profile_fixup'
> declared `static' but never defined
> make[2]: *** [/usr/local/src/glibc-build/elf/dl-runtime.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/glibc-2.3.3/elf'
> make[1]: *** [elf/subdir_lib] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/glibc-2.3.3'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:37:22 +0200
> From: Wim De Smet <kromagg at gmail.com>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] errors compiling glibc-2.3.3
> Message-ID: <64e01c4d04100714374443f376 at mail.gmail.com>
> In-Reply-To: <416592BB.6030806 at earthlink.net>
> References: <416592BB.6030806 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Reply-To: Wim De Smet <kromagg at gmail.com>
> Message: 7
> 
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:02:19 -0700, Darlene Wallach
> <wallachd at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I got the following errors compiling glibc-2.3.3
> >
> > I looked in /usr/local/src/glibc-2.3.3/elf/dl-runtime.c and
> > /usr/local/src/glibc-2.3.3/sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h
> >
> > I have no idea what to do to correct the errors.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest what I might have done wrong?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Darlene
> 
> What version of gcc are you using to compile it? Do the docs say
> anything about version requirements on gcc?
> 
> greets,
> Wim
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:12:43 -0400
> From: Terri Oda <terri at zone12.com>
> To: Darlene Wallach <wallachd at earthlink.net>
> Cc: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] errors compiling glibc-2.3.3
> Message-ID: <032063B9-18AE-11D9-90A4-000D934FBF38 at zone12.com>
> In-Reply-To: <416592BB.6030806 at earthlink.net>
> References: <416592BB.6030806 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619)
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Message: 8
> 
> On Oct 7, 2004, at 3:02 PM, Darlene Wallach wrote:
> > ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:158: error: previous declaration of
> > 'fixup' was here
> > dl-runtime.c:56: error: conflicting types for 'fixup'
> > ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h:158: error: previous declaration of
> > 'fixup' was here
> 
> Hm.  Since these are both the same file, I'd suspect that the
> dl-machine.h is missing an ifndef statement that would keep it from
> being actually included more than once.
> 
> Most header (.h) files have something like this:
> 
> #ifndef  _DL-MACHINE_H_
> #define  _DL-MACHINE_H_
> 
> <The code for the file goes here>
> 
> #endif /* _DL-MACHINE_H_ */
> 
> These linees make sure that even if you include the header file
> multiple times, the function declarations won't be included over and
> over again causing conflicts like the ones you're seeing.  Each one
> will use a different define, so _DL-MACHINE_H_ would be for that one
> file and that one file only, stdio.h would probably be _STDIO_H_, etc.
> What it's saying is "if <this thing> isn't defined, then define it and
> insert all this code." (if the constant is defined, everything between
> ifndef and that endif are ignored.)
> 
> If this is your problem (you can tell by just opening the file and
> seeing if those lines appear around the beginning and end of the file),
> you can fix it by putting these lines in manually for each file that's
> giving this type of error, but unless you wrote these files, you might
> want to ask some questions about *why* they're broken and perhaps get
> better copies of them that don't have this problem.
> 
>   Terri
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:16:47 -0400
> From: Travis Casey <efindel at earthlink.net>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] Monitoring Programs
> Message-ID: <200410071816.48112.efindel at earthlink.net>
> In-Reply-To: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> References: <200410070512.19602.psavoie1783 at rogers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Precedence: list
> Message: 9
> 
> On Thursday 07 October 2004 05:12, Phil Savoie wrote:
> 
> > Would like to know if there are monitoring programs that monitor the
> > following: server processes, memory, bandwidth, routers,
> > servers, hosts.
> >
> > What do you use for this?
> 
> Lots of them.  What do you want it to do?  For example, there are monitoring
> programs that sit in the corner of the screen of the workstation you're on
> and show you a graph of stuff about it, and ones that are meant to monitor
> a bunch of servers and send you email if something goes wrong with one of
> them.  And there's lots of things "in between".
> 
> For the first kind of thing, I currently use ksysmon and knetload, since I
> use KDE for my desktop.  In the past, I've used GKrellM and Xsysinfo.
> Xsysinfo can show you multiple servers; I think GKrellM can as well.
> 
> For the second sort, I use mon at work.  I like mon because its "monitors"
> are actually separate programs -- most of them are Perl scripts -- and with
> a little knowledge of Perl or shell scripting (or, heck, pretty much any
> other computer language) you can easily create your own monitors or modify
> the existing ones.
> 
> I believe ksysmon is a standard part of KDE.
> 
> knetload:  http://flameeyes.web.ctonet.it/kdeapps.html#knetload
> 
> GKrellM:  http://www.gkrellm.net
> 
> I can't find a current real "home" for Xsysinfo, but here's a page with a
> bunch of different packages of it:
> 
> http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/xsysinfo.html
> 
> --
>        |\      _,,,---,,_     Travis S. Casey  <efindel at earthlink.net>
>  ZZzz  /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_   No one agrees with me.  Not even me.
>       |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
>      '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
> ------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Techtalk mailing list
> Techtalk at linuxchix.org
> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
> 
> End of Techtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 6
> ***************************************
>


More information about the Techtalk mailing list