[Techtalk] Linuxchix using SPEWS?

[Listpig]

Andrea: are you sure it was linuxchix that was using it?

Linuxchix is limited of course, by not being able to bypass whatever RBL
listings their upstream provider chooses to use, and this sounds very
familiar (and it's definitely upstream that's blocking in my case; Dancer
and I already looked at it.)

I cannot post to chix if I use my cablemodem company's SMTP server
(comcast); I have to use earthlink's authenticated SMTP server.

Looks to me like your problem is also specifically comcast, so I'd bet that
it's somewhere upstream of linuxchix that it's being blocked.

Unfortunately, there's nothing Jenn, Dancer, or any of the chix can do to
control what upstream providers choose to block.

--pig


On 8/9/04 17:35, "Andrea Landaker" <qirien at icecavern.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure what list this should go to (or should it just go to an admin?  I
> couldn't find contact information on the website . . .), so please feel free
> to move it if I'm off track.
> 
> I was disappointed the last time I tried to send a message to
> techtalk at linuxchix.org, I got an error saying my mail was rejected because of
> spews' blacklist.  Obviously, my IP range is listed because I'm on a popular
> cable modem network with a lot of viruses, spyware, etc, sending out e-mail,
> and I just happen to be running a legitimate SMTP server.  However, since my
> IP hasn't changed in a year, IP's in my range are hardly as dynamic as to
> require listing the whole subnet.  I don't see any way to remove myself from
> SPEW's list, so I'm left being (essentially) censored because of my ISP.
> Obviously, I can get this e-mail through, due to other SMTP servers that I
> happen to have access to, so in my case it's not dire, but it is still (in my
> opinion) unnecessary and in another way, scary.
> 
> See http://www.clapper.org/spam/spews.html for a discussion of SPEWS'
> blacklists, and 
> http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html for a long
> discussion on the problems of RBLs (Realtime Blackhole Lists).
> 
> Is it possible to change this behavior of the Linuxchix lists?  Since the
> lists are for subscribers-only (essentially a whitelist), is blacklisting
> necessary?  I ask these honestly -- if there really is a reason for an RBL,
> and SPEWs really is the best one for the job, then that's fine, but my
> experience denotes otherwise.