[Techtalk] Re: Tip for buying old hardware

[Robert J Mozden]

If your ever looking for old hardware I'm pretty good about that one.  I
have seen older complete servers for $450+. They normally have tape drives
and hdd's included. I have quite a few sources for this type of equipment
readily available.  Some of the stuf is even same day for me here in
florida.

Robert
M&M Creations
http://www.mozden.us
robert at mozden.us
727-547-4673


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>    1. Re: dpkg error -subprocess paste killed by signal (Alain Tesio)
>    2. Tip for buying old hardware (was Re: [Techtalk] cross-platform,
cross-browser testing) (Conor Daly)
>    3. RE: cross-platform, cross-browser testing (Jessica Smith)
>    4. Re: Tip for buying old hardware (Vera Childs)
>    5. Re: cross-platform, cross-browser testing (Rasjid Wilcox)
>    6. Re: dpkg error -subprocess paste killed by signal (Carla Schroder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:42:37 +0100
> From: Alain Tesio <alain at onesite.org>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] dpkg error -subprocess paste killed by signal
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:12:53 -0800
> Carla Schroder <carla at bratgrrl.com> wrote:
>
> >  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/artscat', which is also in package
libarts1-bin
>
>
> Hi, my own dirty way to fix this is to remove the line "/usr/bin/artscat"
in
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libarts1-bin.list and try again.
>
> Alain
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:55:43 +0000
> From: Conor Daly <conor.daly at oceanfree.net>
> To: TechTalk -- LinuxChix <techtalk at linuxchix.org>
> Subject: Tip for buying old hardware (was Re: [Techtalk] cross-platform,
cross-browser testing)
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:39:07PM -0700 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
> Andrea Landaker thought:
> >
> > Failing that, a cheapo machine is always useful.  We were using my old
Pentium
> > 120 for a DNS and mailserver and webserver for a long time, until one of
its
> > 4 500K hard drives died, and we decided we didn't want to trust the
other 3.
> > :-)  The biggest problem is *finding* a machine that is cheap enough to
be
> > worth it, especially after shipping costs (that's why it's nice if you
can
> > find a surplus computer store locally).  We found we could make a whole
new
> > Duron 1 GHz system with decent parts for about $400, which was what most
> > people (locally) were trying to sell their old computers for.
>
> One way to get that _cheap_ secondhand PC is to watch the small ads for a
> while:
>
> o Take detailed note of machines that look interesting but overpriced.
> o Possibly call and offer something realistic.
> o Watch for the same machine appearing week after week in the small ads.
> o When you judge it's been (unsuccessfully) on sale for long enough, call
>   and make your offer.
>
> That _should_ get you to the people who are starting to realise that their
> PC's worth is what people are willing to _pay_ for it rather that some
> figure based on what they _originally_ paid for it.
>
> Conor (Who has _never_ bought a new PC (in one piece that is...))
> --
> Conor Daly <conor.daly at oceanfree.net>
>
> Domestic Sysadmin :-)
> ---------------------
> Faenor.cod.ie
>  11:50pm  up 107 days,  8:34,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> Hobbiton.cod.ie
>  11:43pm  up 4 days,  7:09,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.03
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:13:37 +1100
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> From: Jessica Smith <crystalsinger at mail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Techtalk] cross-platform, cross-browser testing
>
> Hi Rachel,
>
> >now that i've thought of that, i may just do it myself.  Jessica, have
> >you or anyone on the list actually used the service?  how is it?  i
> >couldn'd find a how-it-works on the site, just lots of Why-you-need-it.
> >if, for example, it takes hours to get the pix back it's not as
> >useful...
>
> No, I haven't used it - to be honest I don't do much in the way of browser
> compatibility testing as most of my sites avoid anything terribly
> browserversial (hey, new word!).  :-D
>
> Plus, my logs show that >95% of my particular visitors are using IE5 and
> above, which makes the diminishing returns equation pretty unattractive...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jessica
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:03:37 -0600
> From: "Vera Childs" <vera at dc-vc.net>
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: [Techtalk] Re: Tip for buying old hardware
>
> On 2/20/2003 at 11:55 PM Conor Daly wrote:
> >One way to get that _cheap_ secondhand PC is to watch the small ads for a
> >while:
>
> Good idea. Another way is to shop the yard sales. My husband once got a
> decent P-II (I forget what speed) for $25 at a yardsale. It was fine for
> throwing different OS's on for testing purposes. The woman who was selling
> it had gotten divorced, and this had been her ex-husband's machine. She
> didn't know anything about it, so was just trying to get rid of it. It
> still had a decent video card, harddrive, and other such parts.
>
> Of the 5-6 desktop machines in the house, only my husband's really gets
new
> parts from the store. I usually get hand-me-downs from my dad or husband
> (both of which like to run speedy machines, so the hand-me-downs are
> usually pretty nice), and the other machines in the house have mostly come

> from yard sales. Sometimes we'll get a machine that maybe has some
problems
> on its own, but some of the parts work great and can go into other
machines
> that didn't have those parts when we got them.
>
> We've gotten monitors too, sometimes with some minor problem that is easy
> to fix. Even got a nice 36" TV for the bedroom that way. :)
>
>
> -Vera
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> From: Rasjid Wilcox <rasjidw at openminddev.net>
> To: Emma Jane Hogbin <emmajane at xtrinsic.com>,
> TechTalk -- LinuxChix <techtalk at linuxchix.org>
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] cross-platform, cross-browser testing
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:17:10 +1100
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 7:11 am, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> > If I don't want to have to dual boot I see myself having three
> > options:
> > - windows emulation (wine, crossover, plex86)
> > - virtual machine (not sure what this is really called, but think
VMWare)
> > - buy a second, cheapo windows machine for the same $$ I'd spend on
> >   VMWare
>
> I bought VMWare for Linux around 9 months ago.  It is the only piece of
Linux
> software I've ever bought, and I have absolutely no regrets about the
> purchase.  One of its best features (in terms of testing websites) is that
> you can 'Suspend' and 'Resume' an OS session at the click of a button.  So
to
> test several versions of IE while working on a page, it is just 'Resume',
hit
> Refresh in IE 5.0, 'Suspend', 'Resume', hit Refresh in IE 6.0, 'Suspend'
etc.
> You could test a page across all versions of IE in around a minute.
> Alternately, if you have enough memory, you can have all versions running
at
> the same time, and simply ALT-TAB between them.
>
> However, a word of warning.  VMWare requires memory.  256MB is probably
the
> minimum.  You can run one instance of VMWare comfortably on that (host and
> guest getting 128MB each), two with a performance hit.  It also requires
> harddrive space, although not as much as you might think.  A clean install
of
> Win98 only takes up 203MB, a clean NT install 345MB.
>
> The next alternative I would suggest would be the second cheap machine.  I
> have quite happily had 4 OSes installed on a single machine using grub (2
> versions of windows, 2 versions of linux), and grub would easily do many
> more.  If you put the /boot directory on its own partition accessible by
all
> the OSes, you can even set up a shell or .bat script to 'reboot into OS
foo
> next', which means that you can go and make a cup of tea while the system
> reboots into the next OS.
>
> If you were on a desktop system, I would unequivocally recommend getting
> VMWare.  As it seems that you are on a laptop (with limited harddrive
space,
> and presumably limited space for memory upgrades), I'm not sure which is
> best.  It may depend on how much you like tea (or perhaps how much memory
the
> laptop has).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rasjid.
>
> --
> Rasjid Wilcox
> Canberra, Australia (UTC +11 hrs)
> http://www.openminddev.net
>
>
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> Message: 6
> From: Carla Schroder <carla at bratgrrl.com>
> Reply-To: carla at bratgrrl.com
> To: techtalk at linuxchix.org
> Subject: Re: [Techtalk] dpkg error -subprocess paste killed by signal
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:22:02 -0800
>
> On Friday 21 February 2003 12:42 am, Alain Tesio wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:12:53 -0800
> >
> > Carla Schroder <carla at bratgrrl.com> wrote:
> > >  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/artscat', which is also in package
> > > libarts1-bin
> >
> > Hi, my own dirty way to fix this is to remove the line "/usr/bin/artsca=
> t"
> > in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libarts1-bin.list and try again.
> >
>
> Nice try, that did not help. I did learn that leaving spaces between the =
> files=20
> in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libarts1-bin.list generates a completely new and=20
> different error message! ;-)
>
>
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