[IndiChix] An Open request to LinuxChix-India

[Vid Ayer]

Gayathri, please trim your messages to the specific part which you
wish to reply to as it helps keep the archives more readable and
friendly.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Gayathri Swaminathan
<gayathri.swa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Sriram Narayanan <sriramnrn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > narrowed further. In any case Swati Sani is the current domain owner.
>> > Formal
>> > procedures must be followed as in purchase of domain. We can't simply
>> > request Swati to hand it off to this group.
>> >
>>
>> I see a difference of opinion here. I myself feel that forming groups
>> is a good thing. I have far felt and will continue to feel that the
>> forming of groups is distinct from the issue of domain ownership.
>>
>> Given the various points raised about her so far, and in the interests
>> of having a valid domain for the group, I feel we actually can
>> politely ask her if she's OK with handing over domain name ownership
>> to active list members, and of course state there that list members
>> would be OK with reimbursing her for the costs. Speaking for myself, I
>> may have not mentioned costs so far, but I am aware that it would have
>> cost her money, and that we should be reimbursing her for these costs.
>>
>> Simply being a domain name owner is not the same as being an active list
>> member.

Absolutely agree with Sriram on this. Fwiw, the main LC has also
initiate a formal process of rules for local chapters.  Non-members
holding on to domains is not the best way for a volunteer community to
function.



>>
>> > Also note the central LinuxChix group is happy to forward requests to
>> > subdomain http://<chaptername>.linuxchix.org, which means finding
>> > hosting/
>> > supporting chapter's infrastructure is the chapter's responsibility.
>> > Seems
>> > fair and well structured to me.
>> >
>>
>> I do not know the specifics of which server is actually hosting this
>> instance. Issuing a redirect, which is what I've mentioned, is
>> fortunately easy enough with Apache. We can have the same Apache
>> instance respond to both the domain names using Virtual Hosting, and
>> need only mention a redirect in the linuxchix.org.in VirtualHost
>> redirecting to the india.linuxchix.org domain (hosted on the same
>> machine and perhaps in the same config file).
>>

JFTR, some folks have already offered to host the Indichix chapter but
that is for later. First, we need to resolve the linuxchix.org.in
domain ownership at the earliest.


> Think I was tying formation of the groups prior to resolving any issues
> related to this chapter., but don't see why not per your suggestion treat
> them as separate issues.

They are separate issues.


> Personally I think Swati disassociated from this list due to the flaming/
> bitterness of environment. She is currently unsubscribed which explains why
> she has not responded.

Hmm... I was flamed, called names (militant feminist, last year on
this list), trolled, etc... but I didnt leave.  The subtle (and overt)
bullying, stalking, intimidation is something I've seen at close
quarters so lets not jump to conclusions about others (unless Swati
has told you why she left).   As for her _not_ responding, she was
CC'd many times. This thread also contains a CC to her so she can
respond if she wants to.


> Forming any non-profit volunteer run organization is not an easy matter.
> Everyone year, spends "their" time towards every task oriented for this
> community. That given it is hard to brush off personal remarks,
> personalities only enlarging small tasks at hand. This group worked
> perfectly like clock work when it was a "small" bunch, but we are "growing".
> We need more structure.

If by structure you mean an Advisory committee, it would also be
prudent to suggest who these Advisors will be? Will they be active
members or just about anyone? Will there be a timebound term for them
or is it for eternity? Anyway we can discuss those when the domain
issue is resolved. Lets not bring too many things in one thread.

Thanks for taking an interest Gayathri.

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