[IndiChix] Chapter Name suggestions

[Gayathri Swaminathan]

Hi:

This thread is just now kickstarting the suggestion of "Yes/No for name
change" and "if Yes, suggest names"

Nothing has been said or done. So while your concerns mailing list / website
might get addressed later point. That is if a name change occurred it might
be logical then to register that domain etc.,

Am not still seeing your issue with introducing <$newname> as is..Would we
have to mention we are part of LinuxChix everytime or just have that info
included part of our description?

Right the wiki/ this mailing list exist so everyone can freely discuss their
concerns.

Yes, there is a potential for encouraging Indian women towards Linux/ FOSS
and yes localization can be part of the activities - like translating Linux
documentation to Indian languages.

Yup, my mileage definitely varies from yours :)

Not expecting any change of mindsets here by a simple thing such as name
change, but I know to pick my battles as well. Banging one's head on a known
wall established to be a brick wall injures the person, **not** the brick
wall.

This is no planned exercise IMHO. Seems like a valuable concern that has
popped up in this list/irc/meeting several times. Why not discuss it,
validate concerns instead of cowboying around.

LCIN is fairly new and things are still getting figured out for long terms.

I do agree that the final decision be made by the advisory group who have
silently been doing all the background work for so long.

Gayathri

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Vid Ayer <svaksha at gmail.com> wrote:

> True, I believe that discussion was happenning. In that spirit it
> helps to know what is the objective behind the name change which as
> you say is huge. If its because of the word Chix in Linuxchix then
> that would not change even if one changes the groups name and calls it
> by an other Indian name.  When folks are asked to visit the site or
> irc or the mailing list the word Chix still occurs.  How does one
> avoid any reference to the LinuxChix name ?
>
> Practically speaking, the name change without fully thinking out the
> consequences is not helpful in the long run. Like the main list had
> the discussion how do we handle the change in a synergic manner ....
> Suppose the Indian name is used have possibilities been considered
> over what to do if there are demands that having different reference
> names and site names is confusing hence the group site/server should
> not use Linuxchix and change to new Indian name. How is the group
> going to handle this confusion or explain the distinction ? - which
> may be easy for the members to understand but may not be for a
> newcomer.
>
> Exactly, a wiki with account access allows interested individuals to
> add their ideas freely.
>
>
> In my experience, there are few men who have told me they dont like
> the word Linuxchix at first mention. Am I disheartened by their
> reaction? No they have a right to think negatively but once I explain
> the work done by the group and the positive impact it has, they
> usually change their opinion. There will still be that lone person who
> refuse to understand the work and does not agree with its existence.
> Fine by me so long as the person does not come here and deny us our
> space or work. YMMV.
>
> Indianising (terminoligy?) or localisation of the group does not start
> or end with just a name. Its a lot more and its also not necessary
> that everyone has to like the group, its work or even Gnu/Linux for
> that matter.
>
>
> Nicer if someone with Spanish knowledge can throw light on the
> linguistic interpretations on the word Chicas but since I dont know
> Spanish I googled and found that Chica means "pretty girl" and Chicas
> is the plural for "pretty girls".  Using a term like "pretty girl"
> might have women (and men) protesting that we discriminate on the
> basis of beauty or (add any abstract adjective of choice). What then?
>
>
> Agree fully with "conduct activities, projects, efforts to empower
> women" because *that* is a change that needs to happen. Expecting
> change in mindsets towards women in FLoss merely by changing the name
> seems far-fetched. YMMV.
>
> So while one is free to suggest/discuss new names (or anything else)
> do think out the consequences and if we do invest energy in this
> exercise, how does it benefit us in the short term and long term. Will
> it actually stop people from calling us a part of Linuxchix and hence
> Chix !?
>
> --
> Vid
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