[IndiChix] OSI week
Hassath
hassath at gmail.com
Tue Feb 12 06:13:21 UTC 2008
On Feb 8, 2008 4:42 PM, Atul Chitnis <mail at atulchitnis.net> wrote:
>
> If someone has a problem with my posts, they will tell me off-list (as is
> correct etiquette, and which has happened in one case) instead of
> grandstanding on the list.
Wrong.
Given the violence of your reactions to Vidya [1], it needs a very
thick skin to speak up against your threatening behaviour, let alone
to do so off-list.
I have a problem with your posts.
You seem to be forgetting that this list is also for newbies, and for
people who might even be on a mailing list for the first time. Right
now, they're learning that participating on the list demands being
able to withstand the sort of contempt and ridicule you're dishing
out. The occasional smiley in your messages does nothing to change
that.
On Feb 10, 2008 4:34 PM, Atul Chitnis <mail at atulchitnis.net> wrote:
> Now could you stop acting like a man trying to get the last word in, and
> let us get back to what this list is *really* about (which is *not*
> whether the "listadmin" knows what she is doing).
Yes, this list is about encouraging and enabling women interested in
Linux. And your behaviour is just the kind which will keep women away
from the list. Women who don't know you personally, and are here to
talk about Linux in a friendly manner.
Part of the reason the main LinuxChix is a popular and vibrant
community where so many women participate is because it is a
non-threatening, comfortable place for women. We might want to
'localise' indichix in many respects, but losing this is not one of
them.
Speaking as a list admin, your contributions are welcome only if you
can express them with respect and civility. Drop the viciousness and
hectoring. This is your first and only warning.
- Hassath
[1]
http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/private/indichix/2008-February/000924.html
> "At some point, you must understand that *opinions* are a poor replacement
> for *experience*.
>
> You clearly never been to one of these shindigs (and it would probably be
> good if you do, so that you get some experience with them), nor did not
> read and undestand the post I had pointed to, so let me make it clear for
> you:
http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/private/indichix/2008-February/000928.html
> Secondly (and this this is a gentle warning to you, vidya) the next time
> you pull that divisive "male dominant" angle again, you are in violation
> of this group's objectives. I am a member of this group as much as you
> are.
>
> As self-appointed list admin, you can kick me out, but you certainly have
> NO right to tell me in which discussions to involve myself or not.
> [...]
> I hope I am clear about this.
http://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/private/indichix/2008-February/000932.html
> I never invited you to kick me out - that is another one of the notorious
> "Vidyaisms" where you take something someone said and repurpose it to mean
> something completely different.
>
> I merely pointed out that the *only* right you have on this list related
> to me is that you can kick me out (of course, you would have to have a
> reason to do that) - nothing else. You have zero control over what I reply
> to.
>
> In fact, this must come as a great shock to you - you have zero control.
>
> As for someone finding my behaviour "inappropriate and objectionable
> enough" to write to me off-list - another presumptive Vidyaism. :)
> [...]
> Now could you stop acting like a man trying to get the last word in, and
> let us get back to what this list is *really* about (which is *not*
> whether the "listadmin" knows what she is doing). Take it off-list if you
> want to discuss this any further, and make sure that you include at least
> one "witness" to make sure that there is no "repurposing". :)
>
> I'd really like to see you contributing contructively to this list from
> now on, or (if nothing else) letting others do so.
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