Logo licenses (was Re: [Actionchix] Final versions of robotux are here!)

[Dancer Vesperman]

I don't think the trust has to - in our case - operate any financials or 
accounts. We can limit it solely to the holding/granting of rights and 
licenses. That would also simplify things a good deal.

lawgon at thenilgiris.com wrote:
> I'm top posting here as a general answer is needed:
>
> 1. There is no such thing as an irrevocable license. The copyright holder
> can always revoke it at any time. If the license is paid for, this is a
> different thing and the copyright holder may have to pay damages - but
> this does not apply here.
>
> 2. The only remedy is for the copyright to be assigned to linuxchix -
> which can only be done if it becomes a legal entity. In India, we usually,
> in cases like this, form a trust. The advantage of a trust is that there
> is no 'democracy' general body meetings, memberships etc, the trustees
> nominate other trustees. At the same time, it is a legal entity, can
> operate bank accounts, is financially accountable to the tax authorities
> and can hold property (including copyright). You could do this, and, when
> linuxchix becomes more stable/mature, could convert to something more
> 'democratic'
>
> sorry for the late reply - i am travelling
>
> regards
> kg
>   
>> On Thu, Apr 06, 2006, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>     
>>> she gives permission for updates, changes etc to trusted people -
>>> this is different from granting a license, however restrictive -
>>> things like this can also be ratified with retrospective effect
>>>       
>> I'm not quite sure I understand the difference, can you explain
>> further?
>>
>> I assume you mean granting permission indefinitely and irrevokably
>> into the future?  I'm not asking this because I mistrust Val in
>> particular, as I hope she understands, but things happen to people.
>>
>> LinuxChix went through a major disruption in 2000/2001 when the founder
>> decided that she no longer wished to do any work for LinuxChix. She held
>> the copyright on the page design and on a fair bit of the text. I
>> believe it was unclear for a considerable time whether we had any
>> permission to use or modify any of her work (please, if I have the facts
>> of this story wrong in any respect, I'd appreciate a correction).
>>
>> Therefore, I'd like some kind of permission that we can carry into the
>> future, even if the copyright holder (Val, or an artist, or whomever)
>> becomes uncontactable, or, in fact, refuses their permission suddenly.
>> I'd prefer not to be scrambling for a new logo if the copyright holder
>> either decides to revoke permission to use it, or is no longer available
>> to provide continued permission.
>>
>> What I want:
>>
>>  - the ability for LinuxChix to use and modify the chosen logo
>>    indefinitely, regardless of the copyright owner's future
>>    contactability or continued good feelings towards us
>>
>>  - the ability for LinuxChix to approve others to use and modify the
>>    chosen logo indefinitely, regardless of the copyright owner's future
>>    contactability or continued good feelings towards us
>>
>> Others would like:
>>
>>  - the ability to restrict (in fact, prohibit) use by unapproved others
>>
>> All of these are based on the aim of providing continuity for us that
>> does not have a single point of failure.  I don't really mind if this is
>> called "a licence" or "permission" as long as it has a clear name and
>> those three requirements are guarenteed. Can you elaborate with that in
>> mind?
>>
>> -Mary
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