[Techtalk] What distro?

[Little Girl]

Hey there,

L J L wrote:
> Little Girl wrote:
> > L J L wrote:

[Run command or Run application]
> Someone must have actually made the executive decision to remove it!

> >> That was on of the other things that some fool decided that the
> >> user had no need of.
 
> > As it turns out, it wasn't an Ubuntu fool who did it. Debian is
> > missing it as well - at least it's not to be found anywhere in the
> > menu in debian-506-i386-netinst.iso. It can only be accessed via
> > an applet in the panel just like Ubuntu.
 
> That's odd.  I'm running Lenny, with KDE.  I bring up K Menu, and
> there it is, just above the "switch User" and below the "System
> Menu".

Ah, yes, it's GNOME it's missing from. KDE always has it. (:

> >> Compelling?  Not sure - if you like Kubuntu.  But I found it 
> >> frustrating, and I'm a long time Debian and Linux user.  It was 
> >> supposedly more user friendly, but it felt more like a Windows
> >> wannabe.
 
> > Lots of people feel that way. (:
 
> Heh. I'm glad to know I'm *not* the only one.  I've had Ubuntu
> advocates tell me I was delusional, and didn't know what I was
> talking about. :(

No, you're definitely not delusional, and many before you have said
the same thing. The fact that it felt familiar immediately is one of
the reasons I chose Kubuntu when I switched over from Windows. (:

You know that you can make Kubuntu look just like Ubuntu, right? Both
are pretty well interchangeable when it comes to looks as long as
you're willing to play around with their themes, colors, icons, and
other settings for a while.
 
> > I would actually enjoy a slower release cycle (as seen by the fact
> > that I still use Hardy Heron even though it's quite outdated).
> > What's the tiff about the Firefox name and branding?
 
> They won't bundle actual FireFox and Thunderbird, but genericized 
> versions called IceWeasel and IceDove.  They work fine, except when
> it comes to installing 3rd party extensions that want "FireFox" -
> like anything Adobe or Flash.

Oh good heavens - so the folks who use those can't use Adobe or Flash?
 
> > I also tried out Kubuntu 10.04 in VirtualBox and decided that
> > they've restored enough of the Desktop functionality that I'm
> > willing to go ahead and upgrade to that. (:
 
> OK, I'm glad they fixed the problems,

They restored enough original functionality to convince me that,
after a bit of tweaking, I should be able to get comfortable in it. (:

> Maybe they will figure out that the reason that people are
> migrating away from Windows is because they don't *want* a dumbed
> down interface...

Heh, I didn't know that. I figured that most people make the switch
for security reasons. I remember spending a good chunk of my time
maintaining, updating, and running all sorts of anti-virus,
anti-trojan, anti-spyware, anti-adware, and anti-other-horrible-stuff
programs. Being able to just simply *use* my computer rather than
dedicating myself to maintaining it was a novel concept for me when I
first switched over to Kubuntu.

There have to also be those who make the switch to save money. How
much does Windows cost nowadays? I know quite a few people who have
Windows even though the last price I remember for it was out of their
league, which brings me to the next reason: those many who most
likely have an illegal copy (which must be stressful). (:

-- 
Little Girl

There is no spoon.