[Techtalk] Over-zealous spam filtering (by Raven's ISP?)
whoppo at whoppo.net
Sun Sep 22 21:35:55 EST 2002
I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of effort is being put into this
thread. There are a LOT of people from whom we do not accept email..We
have our own reasons for this, which I think have been explained in
fairly easy to understand terms. Since we started rejecting mail from
domains that have delivered virtually NOTHING but spam to us we have
actually been able to deal with our legitimate email without wasting our
time and resources. Out of thousands and thousands of blocked messages,
we have rejected TWO... JUST TWO in error. and the only one offended to
date appears to be a contributor to this list.
Raven has been a member of this list since I've known her and until just
a few minutes ago was one of the admins of this list. As I'm typing
this, she is un-subscribing herself and relinquishing her admin rights..
Why? My guess is that she's had enough of this... her contributions to
this list and the time she spends helping its administration should not
make her a target for abusive commentary because of the way we deal with
Can we give this a rest now? This thread *really* does not belong on the
"techtalk" list.. does it?
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:40, Christina Zeeh wrote:
> As soon as Raven (or anyone else you're providing with an email
> address) decides to participate in a discussion on a mailing lists or
> other forums that are as international as LinuxChix, there is a good
> chance that someone with a banned email address will reply. And those
> people have to see your message. And are probably really offended
> because they tried to provide a helpful/interesting/carefully worded
> reply to a posting and get that kind of answer.
> I can't see how one can justify sending email to LinuxChix mailing
> lists (remember, our rules are "be polite, be helpful"), and risk
> participants in the discussion being offended (and probably also
> confused) by such a message. Of course you can do with your server
> whatever you like. But as soon as you actively participate on a mailing
> list it is IMHO no longer your personal business what kind of offending
> messages your server may send to legitimate respondents to your message.
> It is very likely that most people who will actually see that message
> are not spammers (I've rarely seen a spam with a valid return-path). It
> is also very likely that the only people who will really be offended by
> this message (in addition to the fact that their mail got bounced and
> the time it takes them to figure out what is actually wrong), are the
> people who really cared about sending you a message. So maybe you want
> to think about rewording the message to be less offensive and more
> helpful -- the spammers won't care about it anyway.
> "I smile because I have no idea what's going on."
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