[IndiChix] The state of things at LinuxChix India

[Hassath]

On Jan 27, 2008 7:29 PM, VaibhaV Sharma <vaibhav at vaibhavsharma.com> wrote:
> At the risk of breaking my own resolution, I type this email.
[snip]

Hi Vaibhav.

Thanks for writing in yourself.

1. First proposal on the list to use mailman instead of yahoo- Nov 29, 2007.
 Your response- Dec 13, 2007.

2. As for not installing mailman on the same box, the technical
problems that you have now bothered to specify make sense, and if
there was anyone who could have argued that you should still install
mailman on the box could have been convinced otherwise by the list.
Instead of which, you wrote:
"Honestly, I vote to get some real work done. This mailing list change
business is going to kick a lot of folks out of sync with the already
thin activity."
Why not state the reasons for your inability to install mailman on
that box then and there? Instead of finding fault with a decision
which was taken?

3. Whether the WHOIS information is important or not is NOT for you to
decide. Considering that it took more than a month to get some
response about the domain from Pooja, I think that at the very least,
it should have people who will bother to respond. And if this
information is of zero value, it should have troubled you very little
to post on the list and offer to hand it over to whoever the list
wanted.

4. Giving someone ssh rights or somebody working on the planet - they
may be small things to you, but they need to be announced on the list:
 just so that everyone knows what's going on. And so that people can
volunteer, if they want to.

5. As for your suggestions, others can respond as they want to. Here's
my opinion:
- Yes, we will create a women-only list when we want to. For now, we
have men on the list, and we ask for their support and encouragement.
But, we want to DECIDE things for ourselves. If you can't be on the
list without obstructing our processes, that's your problem.
- Meetings: We will have whatever kind of meetings we choose to.
Inviting men to attend does NOT mean that they can take over. Men can
attend meetings and be supportive without trying to run the show.
Learn the difference.
- I agree that we don't need to talk about formal organisation and
officers in charge.

As for your remark about "cat fights"- it's a very typically male
thing to do (only males who are patriarchal do this, other men don't).
To term women's discussions or arguments "cat fights".

I guess it's convenient for you to forget who turned things vicious
first? And too much to expect that you would admit that your
responding promptly and helpfully to posts about the domain could have
reduced any friction?

Well, these are our discussions and arguments, and yes, we will
resolve them or not resolve them - on our own. Whether we make
mistakes, or succeed, or fail learning them. If you can accept that
the women here need to take their own decisions, and if you can be
helpful and responsive, good.

If not, maybe you should really keep yourself out of these "cat
fights". I suspect this list could deal with that.

-- 
- Hassath